By God's Hand alone EIDO reached Burundi before we did!
Full Transcript of Video Call on 21st April 2012 between:
Pastor Joseph Sinibarura Founder EIDO International Incorporated Burundi
& Bro. Peter Roberts Founding Chairman of EIDO International Incorporated Australia
Background Notes: This was Ps Sinibarura's first direct verbal contact with EIDO Australia since registering EIDO Burundi in 2006. He had worked through the first Director of EIDO East Africa whose Directorship was cancelled on 1st October 2011 & Peter Roberts from Australia took up the additional role & this call took place between them six months after that event. It was not until December 2013 that the Lord led Ps Stephen Basalirwa of Kifampa Uganda to take up the Director's role in EIDO East Africa.
Pastor Joseph starts the conversation
I Praise God to see you Peter. To see you is just a chance. I prayed much for you even though I did not know who you are. So I am really really very glad to see you.
His Heart for Ministry
I want just to give you a short testimony of how I live with the Ministry. My Father & Mother were all orphans they grew up loving those who are bereaved, people who are orphans and widows and they grew up loving to see people coming and sharing with them the little they had. So I grew up in that environment, I grew up in that atmosphere. This made me Love the Widows & the Orphans as well as my fathers & mothers they did. So my heart when I see orphans I am very unhappy about it because myself I grew up in that situation. When I see a widow, maybe because of her being a widow she is in prostitution, and I being a Born Again person I grieve in my heart. So I grew up in that environment and I thought all about what you can do for these people then without realising I found out that I love to help these disabled and unfortunate people that seem to be forgotten by the other people in society. So growing up I wanted to develop or to start a ministry. Me instead of eating in the night, having something while the orphan & the widows have nothing to feed on I couldn't bear it.
Added Note July 2017: Ps Joseph has for years now been working closely with the Batwa people of Burundi, one of the most marginilised communities in all of Africa.
Gives Thanks for his family
I can tell you Peter that I am also very fortunate Oh that God did me a good thing in giving me a wife & children who support me in that Ministry and who love the Ministry that I am doing. It is like it is in their blood and I Praise The Lord for that.
Testimony of receiving EIDO from God
In summary I went to study in Kenya, it was in 2006 and God visited me at that time. God told me ‘Go to the mountain, I will talk to you there.’ So I went to that mountain then I had 40 Days of Prayer. Every 2 days I would take a cup of porridge so that I could finish my 40 days of prayer on that mountain.
God showed me three letters and I found out that it is the letters that make EIDO itself. I got the letters I didn't know what they really mean and when EIDO comes I thought it was EIDO then so I um, Praise God for that. So that time because people would not understand me I was going to pray and ask God to give me a mentor or someone to coach me or who would encourage me and who would help me in that Ministry or who would understand what I am doing. So that was the burden I was bearing and that was what I was bringing to Our Lord on that mountain. [He received the word EIDO now he was asking God to send someone to explain it to him].
Note: I questioned our interpreter Bro. Abel as to exactly what three letters had God shown Ps Joseph but he explained that he did indeed receive the four letters E I D O but in French ei is known as a Diphthong (two vowels together): ei [French: eh. German: long English i (as in night)] so he mentioned it as three letters.
At that time there was a Pastor he was my classmate. That Pastor was a Rwandese colleague from Rwanda. He was my classmate in school but then he went home to Rwanda to see his child because he got a report that his child was sick at home. He then just left the school and went to Rwanda to see the child who was sick.
Then in Rwanda he encountered the first Director of EIDO East Africa from Uganda who you already know. They had a short conversation around a coffee at a coffee shop and he happened to ask this Rwandese classmate of mine if he knows anything about Burundi, if he has any news from Burundi, how Burundi is & any information he has about Burundi. This was the EIDO Director asking of this Rwandese classmate of Pastor Joseph. So this Rwandese told him that he has only been in Burundi once in my life. The EIDO Director shared that he was going there but he does not know where to go, where to stay as he knows nothing of Burundi but he is going there. He asked if he has any information to help him. He was asking him how to find a hotel, a restaurant, the market, things like this.
So this Rwandese classmate then recommended him to go to Pastor Joseph’s home in Burundi and they would welcome him, but he told him that at this time he knows that Pastor Joseph will not be at home as we are studying together in a Biblical School in Kenya so for this time maybe you will find his wife and children there and they will welcome you. So he gave the EIDO Director the phone number of Pastor Joseph’s home so he could call to find if people are home there. Then after all this information the EIDO Director came to Burundi. He posted a paper with his name on his chest so that they may read his name and my wife also put a paper on her chest saying her name and that she is my wife so that they could recognise each other without difficulty. This is how my wife and the EIDO Director came together whilst I was still in Kenya studying.
I myself did not know anything about what was happening between my wife and the EIDO Director or even between my classmate and the EIDO Director. I knew nothing about any of it. So I was still in the 40 Days of Prayer still having 10 days to go.
When the EIDO Director had finished with my wife & family in Burundi then he came directly to see me in Kenya. He asked all around where he can find Pastor Joseph Sinibarura in any Biblical School just so as to find this Pastor and address him. Then finally he found me and found where I was studying and it happened that he found me. Then he came to me and explained to me more clearly what was his Mission that pushed him to come to Burundi & how he had been received in my house, in my home in Burundi. We had a full conversation explaining all he had come to do in Burundi. When he had finished to tell me all what he had been doing with EIDO & all what about EIDO International I now understood a bit about EIDO.
What pushed me to be in Love with that big and great passion about EIDO is that it came like the answer to my 40 Days Prayer the Lord had asked me to do. Because I was praying already to God to give me a mentor, a coach or someone who will encourage me if ever I ask I start that Ministry of Widows & Orphans that forgotten people and its only after the conversation I had with the EIDO Director that the four letters I got on the mountain that they really coincide with the letters of EIDO. I don’t know, but all what I saw in all this conversation I had with the EIDO Director is that I got my answer to my prayers & really God is Faithful toward what He had asked me to do, to go to the mountain and pray and that He would talk to me once I had finished the prayer.
So I love EIDO very much and I want to even make it my own. Even if it wasn't an easy walk, it was like it was stuck on my heart that I loved EIDO very much because I saw it as an answer.
But I should tell you that it was not an easy thing to do even to make it legally recognised in Burundi. It was hard & difficult in the context of Burundi. Many people asked. I tried hard to get it legally recognised and accepted in Burundi. Then the first problem the people who sign on the paper asked me to bring all the money, all the funds, all the finances and to present them so they can say maybe this is a credible thing so they may accept to sign but it was not easy and I did not have any money to present so that they may accept it legally. They just want to get those finances and that money just as a proof of what EIDO is projecting to do it will do it really. I tried all my best but I just could not get it. I went back on my knees and prayed to God, I cried to God. I spent 10 days of prayer once again. After the 10 days prayer then they accepted and signed that and then it was legally recognised & accepted as a Ministry in Burundi.
Because I think I prayed about it and it was God Himself who gave me that Ministry because for it to be recognised legally I just collected some amount of money from my family, selling things so that I may get at least a small amount of money just to present because my family supported me, my wife and my children understood me, so I did my best to just get a small amount of money just make it just a small proof of its credibility so its not just a joke that I am going to start a Ministry in Burundi. So I sell most of my things but the good thing is that my family and my children understood what I’m doing because it was a Ministry coming straight from God. So God helped me in all that process because I think yeah any time I feel from Him I believe God helps me and I pray to God and He often helps me. So it was by Grace of God yeah it was signed and then legally recognised.
So I can’t let EIDO go like that because its already on my heart and it stuck to my heart and I think I have to do all possible things to make it work and to function & to fulfill all it has projected to do or aims to do to change the lives of the forgotten & the widows & the orphans.
Many people whom I started with just left me on the way. Many people are asking when at New Years Day in other families the Father brings presents yet I am a father but I could not afford to even bring anything for my children, like a gift to wish them a Happy New Year to my family. But because of this problem then the people let me down they just left me on the way, just because, but I couldn't quit because the Ministry that was coming was on my heart. Sometimes they could say that in 5 years we assure you that you will have vanished, you have disappeared because this only for maybe you are engaged in crookery, that you are working with crooks, just saying words that were not good to me.
But because I had that confidence coming from God I continued my work I didn't pay much attention to those words but I continued my way. So God helped me because my family already understood what I am doing. This is what pushed me to love EIDO and even to dedicate my life to EIDO because I saw it as a Ministry and it is what God wants me to do in this world.
It was not easy for me even to go back to see the EIDO Director in Uganda. When I happened to go to see him to get some clear explanation he could not give me a bus fare that would help me to get back to Burundi. Then I had to call back to Burundi to ask friends to send a bus fare so I may go back to Burundi so that I might not be stuck in Uganda. So people then when they saw that the situation was so degenerating they just started to move out. The people that I started together with they just started to become weak and become unsupportive then I was left on my own. I was left alone in the Ministry but I did not quit.
In summary people told me, discouraged me, saying you can’t have all your time fasting, praying to God and God does not answer you and you can’t even continue to believe in something that has been as you told us that has been for 5 years and you have not seen anything from it.
Any discouragement, any discouraging words I received it even from my first members, even my friends around just trying to discourage me from the Ministry and it sometimes hurt me.
But I have heard about you, I have heard that there is somebody in Australia that got the Vision and I’ve been on my knees praying that maybe God will create a way that I will see you and that you will encourage me as you tell me what you think about it & about what is happening and maybe yeah much more about encouragement and about understanding.
So last Saturday you know that we didn't talk through Skype because of the electricity but for this today I have been in prayer for 2 days that we should talk so that you can tell me what is on your heart. I have many things that God has already told me about even though we have not already talked but I think God has already told me many things. So I am very happy, I am glad and I thank you, I Thank God also to provide this time to talk to you. I have many things, many things to talk to you but I think I could even write a book but summarily I am glad, I am glad to see your face, I am glad also to hear your voice, so I am very happy to meet you. I now want to give you time. I am sorry that I talked so long, I had many things to tell you but maybe now I should give you time to share with me.
The Founding Chairman of EIDO International Incorporated then shared at some length of the Birth & the past outworkings of the EIDO Ministry in Australia and East Africa. Pastor Joseph Sinibarura then thanked him for what he had shared saying it was very helpful to him & then he requested a final word as he had a message for him the transcript of which now follows:
The first thing I want to say to you with all my heart is thank you for your testimonies that you have shared with me. When I spoke earlier I was trembling for fear that the power would let us down again so I was anxious to get across the things I felt were most important about how I came to the EIDO Ministry.
I thank you very much for sharing so widely. From what you said I realised that you have already said many of the things that I wanted to tell you.
For example the trials and hardships that you have been through and yeah they are the same things that have happened to me as well. I am just amazed how I have arrived at your side having had the same trials in Burundi. I am very happy also, I am very touched by what you said about your family that it is only your family that understands you. This is the same situation with me because it is only my family, my wife and children who have supported & understand me and if they were’nt there I think the little things already done with EIDO wouldn't have been done.
The other thing I want to tell you is that most of the time I pray and cry to God. Even if they haven't completed the house you were building in Uganda even if you err, even if the situation is like that with the house in Uganda there is something great that has happened in that time. What happened really came as a bridge to build contact with the EIDO Director and I think that is the positive thing we can draw from all that happened in Uganda, the hardship & trials that you have been through in Uganda.
So I Thank God that He sent the EIDO Director because the EIDO Director himself came as a bridge and if it wasn't through the EIDO Director I would not have seen you. I find that that has been a really helpful bridge that God has brought a very useful instrument for through him I have been able to get the message of EIDO and really it reached me through the EIDO Director and I Thank God for that.
I want to tell you that I am with you in Unity of the Heart & of the Vision of EIDO. I am with you. Stand on the position, stand on the side of God and continue to work under the direction of the Holy Spirit.
This year the same year we are in, this year God has already shown me that this blessing down your end it is a year of blessing of funds the people will understand and give donations and God has actually shown me that same thing six times. That this will happen this year. This very year I tell you. I believe that as God told me that God is going to do something great down your end and also God is going to do something great here in Burundi.
After all these trials and problems, the difficult times you have had the pastors who have not supported you, churches or even the assistant pastors or all these difficult times with Church leaders. They just spoke like human beings but God still has the last, last last Word. After that you’ll have a shining time, you’ll have a Glorious time.
The same people who do not understand you Peter, they are the same that will lift you up and support you and come and accompany you in your vision.
When we are finished here I am going for 40 days of prayer & I hope and expect from you the answers that you have already received from God I will be praying for that and even though they do not understand you God will make them to understand.
There are things that God revealed to me yesterday last night as I was praying. I saw a huge blessing. I saw also the sheeps the number of sheep that you are caring for, I saw the prayers that you pray for. You pray every day. I just want to encourage you Peter. God speaks to me many times I don’t want to do anything beside except being in the Presence of God and listening to Him.
Even now I am continuing the work of explaining and trying to make people understand of what is EIDO and what it intends to do and what is the Vision of EIDO in many different Provinces of Burundi.
So this year you grow expectant of something new. God showed me like a flow of a river that was surrounding [overflowing] and I saw many beautiful fruits that we’re taking. I saw many, many different crops, many different kinds of plants and you were giving that to me. I am sure God wants to do something this end He is going to do it this year. All the things that have happened to you just to discourage you and so that you may be weak or let down with EIDO but God wants to relieve you, God wants to relaunch you.
Lets wait and lets be patient for the time of God, for when the time of God comes. I stand on what God speaks to me and what I tell God everyday.
Excuse me for I am taking so much time Peter but today is contact day a personal contact with you Roberts and no more.
Just to see you Roberts this is proof and confirmation that God wants to fulfill His Promises and I Hope and Believe God is going to do Great Things.
After questions there are answers.
He who started the good work in you is Willing. Just be patient in the grace and the patience of God. The time of God is drawing closer and closer. Don’t be discouraged because the time, the hour of God is near and God is going to open doors for you.
My wife & children told me their greetings to you and they are already in line with you in the Vision. I Praise God that this year God gave me a tithe, a son. He gave me that son so that communication could be very very easy and the son God gave me has also known what difficult times are and he is very supportive. When I am going to just to faint he just encourages me and I can then take new strength. That is something I prayed for and the son He gave me is the one sitting with me now [Bro. Abel Nduwayo the interpreter].
So particularly pray for that and explain to people and God is going to do His job and God is going to show Himself and show Burundi that Pray to God and God Answers and what will come out of this country Burundi, maybe it will help you to forget all the trials and hardships and hard times you have had in Africa and in Uganda.
What I see and what God is telling me now is that God will repeal the tears you have had in Uganda and the discouragement you have had from the people who were meant to be with you.
Another time, the time will come when I will show you my family and you will show me your family. I will show you my wife. She has been a very big big support and blessing in supporting this vision in my home. She is my, even if other people have let me down she has been with me around.
Let me stop right here and let you rest. I am very very excited to see you.
To see you with my eyes to see how you look like.
It shows me that God maybe will send me to Australia or you come here to Burundi. Anytime, one day you will be here in Burundi. God will make a way. People who have let me down will just be amazed at what God is doing.
Pastor Sinibarura then ended our conversation in prayer.
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Full Transcript of Video Call on 21st April 2012 between:
Pastor Joseph Sinibarura Founder EIDO International Incorporated Burundi
& Bro. Peter Roberts Founding Chairman of EIDO International Incorporated Australia
Background Notes: This was Ps Sinibarura's first direct verbal contact with EIDO Australia since registering EIDO Burundi in 2006. He had worked through the first Director of EIDO East Africa whose Directorship was cancelled on 1st October 2011 & Peter Roberts from Australia took up the additional role & this call took place between them six months after that event. It was not until December 2013 that the Lord led Ps Stephen Basalirwa of Kifampa Uganda to take up the Director's role in EIDO East Africa.
Pastor Joseph starts the conversation
I Praise God to see you Peter. To see you is just a chance. I prayed much for you even though I did not know who you are. So I am really really very glad to see you.
His Heart for Ministry
I want just to give you a short testimony of how I live with the Ministry. My Father & Mother were all orphans they grew up loving those who are bereaved, people who are orphans and widows and they grew up loving to see people coming and sharing with them the little they had. So I grew up in that environment, I grew up in that atmosphere. This made me Love the Widows & the Orphans as well as my fathers & mothers they did. So my heart when I see orphans I am very unhappy about it because myself I grew up in that situation. When I see a widow, maybe because of her being a widow she is in prostitution, and I being a Born Again person I grieve in my heart. So I grew up in that environment and I thought all about what you can do for these people then without realising I found out that I love to help these disabled and unfortunate people that seem to be forgotten by the other people in society. So growing up I wanted to develop or to start a ministry. Me instead of eating in the night, having something while the orphan & the widows have nothing to feed on I couldn't bear it.
Added Note July 2017: Ps Joseph has for years now been working closely with the Batwa people of Burundi, one of the most marginilised communities in all of Africa.
Gives Thanks for his family
I can tell you Peter that I am also very fortunate Oh that God did me a good thing in giving me a wife & children who support me in that Ministry and who love the Ministry that I am doing. It is like it is in their blood and I Praise The Lord for that.
Testimony of receiving EIDO from God
In summary I went to study in Kenya, it was in 2006 and God visited me at that time. God told me ‘Go to the mountain, I will talk to you there.’ So I went to that mountain then I had 40 Days of Prayer. Every 2 days I would take a cup of porridge so that I could finish my 40 days of prayer on that mountain.
God showed me three letters and I found out that it is the letters that make EIDO itself. I got the letters I didn't know what they really mean and when EIDO comes I thought it was EIDO then so I um, Praise God for that. So that time because people would not understand me I was going to pray and ask God to give me a mentor or someone to coach me or who would encourage me and who would help me in that Ministry or who would understand what I am doing. So that was the burden I was bearing and that was what I was bringing to Our Lord on that mountain. [He received the word EIDO now he was asking God to send someone to explain it to him].
Note: I questioned our interpreter Bro. Abel as to exactly what three letters had God shown Ps Joseph but he explained that he did indeed receive the four letters E I D O but in French ei is known as a Diphthong (two vowels together): ei [French: eh. German: long English i (as in night)] so he mentioned it as three letters.
At that time there was a Pastor he was my classmate. That Pastor was a Rwandese colleague from Rwanda. He was my classmate in school but then he went home to Rwanda to see his child because he got a report that his child was sick at home. He then just left the school and went to Rwanda to see the child who was sick.
Then in Rwanda he encountered the first Director of EIDO East Africa from Uganda who you already know. They had a short conversation around a coffee at a coffee shop and he happened to ask this Rwandese classmate of mine if he knows anything about Burundi, if he has any news from Burundi, how Burundi is & any information he has about Burundi. This was the EIDO Director asking of this Rwandese classmate of Pastor Joseph. So this Rwandese told him that he has only been in Burundi once in my life. The EIDO Director shared that he was going there but he does not know where to go, where to stay as he knows nothing of Burundi but he is going there. He asked if he has any information to help him. He was asking him how to find a hotel, a restaurant, the market, things like this.
So this Rwandese classmate then recommended him to go to Pastor Joseph’s home in Burundi and they would welcome him, but he told him that at this time he knows that Pastor Joseph will not be at home as we are studying together in a Biblical School in Kenya so for this time maybe you will find his wife and children there and they will welcome you. So he gave the EIDO Director the phone number of Pastor Joseph’s home so he could call to find if people are home there. Then after all this information the EIDO Director came to Burundi. He posted a paper with his name on his chest so that they may read his name and my wife also put a paper on her chest saying her name and that she is my wife so that they could recognise each other without difficulty. This is how my wife and the EIDO Director came together whilst I was still in Kenya studying.
I myself did not know anything about what was happening between my wife and the EIDO Director or even between my classmate and the EIDO Director. I knew nothing about any of it. So I was still in the 40 Days of Prayer still having 10 days to go.
When the EIDO Director had finished with my wife & family in Burundi then he came directly to see me in Kenya. He asked all around where he can find Pastor Joseph Sinibarura in any Biblical School just so as to find this Pastor and address him. Then finally he found me and found where I was studying and it happened that he found me. Then he came to me and explained to me more clearly what was his Mission that pushed him to come to Burundi & how he had been received in my house, in my home in Burundi. We had a full conversation explaining all he had come to do in Burundi. When he had finished to tell me all what he had been doing with EIDO & all what about EIDO International I now understood a bit about EIDO.
What pushed me to be in Love with that big and great passion about EIDO is that it came like the answer to my 40 Days Prayer the Lord had asked me to do. Because I was praying already to God to give me a mentor, a coach or someone who will encourage me if ever I ask I start that Ministry of Widows & Orphans that forgotten people and its only after the conversation I had with the EIDO Director that the four letters I got on the mountain that they really coincide with the letters of EIDO. I don’t know, but all what I saw in all this conversation I had with the EIDO Director is that I got my answer to my prayers & really God is Faithful toward what He had asked me to do, to go to the mountain and pray and that He would talk to me once I had finished the prayer.
So I love EIDO very much and I want to even make it my own. Even if it wasn't an easy walk, it was like it was stuck on my heart that I loved EIDO very much because I saw it as an answer.
But I should tell you that it was not an easy thing to do even to make it legally recognised in Burundi. It was hard & difficult in the context of Burundi. Many people asked. I tried hard to get it legally recognised and accepted in Burundi. Then the first problem the people who sign on the paper asked me to bring all the money, all the funds, all the finances and to present them so they can say maybe this is a credible thing so they may accept to sign but it was not easy and I did not have any money to present so that they may accept it legally. They just want to get those finances and that money just as a proof of what EIDO is projecting to do it will do it really. I tried all my best but I just could not get it. I went back on my knees and prayed to God, I cried to God. I spent 10 days of prayer once again. After the 10 days prayer then they accepted and signed that and then it was legally recognised & accepted as a Ministry in Burundi.
Because I think I prayed about it and it was God Himself who gave me that Ministry because for it to be recognised legally I just collected some amount of money from my family, selling things so that I may get at least a small amount of money just to present because my family supported me, my wife and my children understood me, so I did my best to just get a small amount of money just make it just a small proof of its credibility so its not just a joke that I am going to start a Ministry in Burundi. So I sell most of my things but the good thing is that my family and my children understood what I’m doing because it was a Ministry coming straight from God. So God helped me in all that process because I think yeah any time I feel from Him I believe God helps me and I pray to God and He often helps me. So it was by Grace of God yeah it was signed and then legally recognised.
So I can’t let EIDO go like that because its already on my heart and it stuck to my heart and I think I have to do all possible things to make it work and to function & to fulfill all it has projected to do or aims to do to change the lives of the forgotten & the widows & the orphans.
Many people whom I started with just left me on the way. Many people are asking when at New Years Day in other families the Father brings presents yet I am a father but I could not afford to even bring anything for my children, like a gift to wish them a Happy New Year to my family. But because of this problem then the people let me down they just left me on the way, just because, but I couldn't quit because the Ministry that was coming was on my heart. Sometimes they could say that in 5 years we assure you that you will have vanished, you have disappeared because this only for maybe you are engaged in crookery, that you are working with crooks, just saying words that were not good to me.
But because I had that confidence coming from God I continued my work I didn't pay much attention to those words but I continued my way. So God helped me because my family already understood what I am doing. This is what pushed me to love EIDO and even to dedicate my life to EIDO because I saw it as a Ministry and it is what God wants me to do in this world.
It was not easy for me even to go back to see the EIDO Director in Uganda. When I happened to go to see him to get some clear explanation he could not give me a bus fare that would help me to get back to Burundi. Then I had to call back to Burundi to ask friends to send a bus fare so I may go back to Burundi so that I might not be stuck in Uganda. So people then when they saw that the situation was so degenerating they just started to move out. The people that I started together with they just started to become weak and become unsupportive then I was left on my own. I was left alone in the Ministry but I did not quit.
In summary people told me, discouraged me, saying you can’t have all your time fasting, praying to God and God does not answer you and you can’t even continue to believe in something that has been as you told us that has been for 5 years and you have not seen anything from it.
Any discouragement, any discouraging words I received it even from my first members, even my friends around just trying to discourage me from the Ministry and it sometimes hurt me.
But I have heard about you, I have heard that there is somebody in Australia that got the Vision and I’ve been on my knees praying that maybe God will create a way that I will see you and that you will encourage me as you tell me what you think about it & about what is happening and maybe yeah much more about encouragement and about understanding.
So last Saturday you know that we didn't talk through Skype because of the electricity but for this today I have been in prayer for 2 days that we should talk so that you can tell me what is on your heart. I have many things that God has already told me about even though we have not already talked but I think God has already told me many things. So I am very happy, I am glad and I thank you, I Thank God also to provide this time to talk to you. I have many things, many things to talk to you but I think I could even write a book but summarily I am glad, I am glad to see your face, I am glad also to hear your voice, so I am very happy to meet you. I now want to give you time. I am sorry that I talked so long, I had many things to tell you but maybe now I should give you time to share with me.
The Founding Chairman of EIDO International Incorporated then shared at some length of the Birth & the past outworkings of the EIDO Ministry in Australia and East Africa. Pastor Joseph Sinibarura then thanked him for what he had shared saying it was very helpful to him & then he requested a final word as he had a message for him the transcript of which now follows:
The first thing I want to say to you with all my heart is thank you for your testimonies that you have shared with me. When I spoke earlier I was trembling for fear that the power would let us down again so I was anxious to get across the things I felt were most important about how I came to the EIDO Ministry.
I thank you very much for sharing so widely. From what you said I realised that you have already said many of the things that I wanted to tell you.
For example the trials and hardships that you have been through and yeah they are the same things that have happened to me as well. I am just amazed how I have arrived at your side having had the same trials in Burundi. I am very happy also, I am very touched by what you said about your family that it is only your family that understands you. This is the same situation with me because it is only my family, my wife and children who have supported & understand me and if they were’nt there I think the little things already done with EIDO wouldn't have been done.
The other thing I want to tell you is that most of the time I pray and cry to God. Even if they haven't completed the house you were building in Uganda even if you err, even if the situation is like that with the house in Uganda there is something great that has happened in that time. What happened really came as a bridge to build contact with the EIDO Director and I think that is the positive thing we can draw from all that happened in Uganda, the hardship & trials that you have been through in Uganda.
So I Thank God that He sent the EIDO Director because the EIDO Director himself came as a bridge and if it wasn't through the EIDO Director I would not have seen you. I find that that has been a really helpful bridge that God has brought a very useful instrument for through him I have been able to get the message of EIDO and really it reached me through the EIDO Director and I Thank God for that.
I want to tell you that I am with you in Unity of the Heart & of the Vision of EIDO. I am with you. Stand on the position, stand on the side of God and continue to work under the direction of the Holy Spirit.
This year the same year we are in, this year God has already shown me that this blessing down your end it is a year of blessing of funds the people will understand and give donations and God has actually shown me that same thing six times. That this will happen this year. This very year I tell you. I believe that as God told me that God is going to do something great down your end and also God is going to do something great here in Burundi.
After all these trials and problems, the difficult times you have had the pastors who have not supported you, churches or even the assistant pastors or all these difficult times with Church leaders. They just spoke like human beings but God still has the last, last last Word. After that you’ll have a shining time, you’ll have a Glorious time.
The same people who do not understand you Peter, they are the same that will lift you up and support you and come and accompany you in your vision.
When we are finished here I am going for 40 days of prayer & I hope and expect from you the answers that you have already received from God I will be praying for that and even though they do not understand you God will make them to understand.
There are things that God revealed to me yesterday last night as I was praying. I saw a huge blessing. I saw also the sheeps the number of sheep that you are caring for, I saw the prayers that you pray for. You pray every day. I just want to encourage you Peter. God speaks to me many times I don’t want to do anything beside except being in the Presence of God and listening to Him.
Even now I am continuing the work of explaining and trying to make people understand of what is EIDO and what it intends to do and what is the Vision of EIDO in many different Provinces of Burundi.
So this year you grow expectant of something new. God showed me like a flow of a river that was surrounding [overflowing] and I saw many beautiful fruits that we’re taking. I saw many, many different crops, many different kinds of plants and you were giving that to me. I am sure God wants to do something this end He is going to do it this year. All the things that have happened to you just to discourage you and so that you may be weak or let down with EIDO but God wants to relieve you, God wants to relaunch you.
Lets wait and lets be patient for the time of God, for when the time of God comes. I stand on what God speaks to me and what I tell God everyday.
Excuse me for I am taking so much time Peter but today is contact day a personal contact with you Roberts and no more.
Just to see you Roberts this is proof and confirmation that God wants to fulfill His Promises and I Hope and Believe God is going to do Great Things.
After questions there are answers.
He who started the good work in you is Willing. Just be patient in the grace and the patience of God. The time of God is drawing closer and closer. Don’t be discouraged because the time, the hour of God is near and God is going to open doors for you.
My wife & children told me their greetings to you and they are already in line with you in the Vision. I Praise God that this year God gave me a tithe, a son. He gave me that son so that communication could be very very easy and the son God gave me has also known what difficult times are and he is very supportive. When I am going to just to faint he just encourages me and I can then take new strength. That is something I prayed for and the son He gave me is the one sitting with me now [Bro. Abel Nduwayo the interpreter].
So particularly pray for that and explain to people and God is going to do His job and God is going to show Himself and show Burundi that Pray to God and God Answers and what will come out of this country Burundi, maybe it will help you to forget all the trials and hardships and hard times you have had in Africa and in Uganda.
What I see and what God is telling me now is that God will repeal the tears you have had in Uganda and the discouragement you have had from the people who were meant to be with you.
Another time, the time will come when I will show you my family and you will show me your family. I will show you my wife. She has been a very big big support and blessing in supporting this vision in my home. She is my, even if other people have let me down she has been with me around.
Let me stop right here and let you rest. I am very very excited to see you.
To see you with my eyes to see how you look like.
It shows me that God maybe will send me to Australia or you come here to Burundi. Anytime, one day you will be here in Burundi. God will make a way. People who have let me down will just be amazed at what God is doing.
Pastor Sinibarura then ended our conversation in prayer.
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